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Wednesday, July 22, 2009

HYK- The -Turin-King-List-a

HYK- The -Turin-King-List-a

The back bone of the assertion that a list of Hyksos Kings was found in a papyrus in Egypt. It is called The Turin Kings List... Turin? Because it is in Turin Italy I guess.

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1a) The papyrus was found by the Italian Bernardino Drovetti.

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In a contradiction the papyrus WAS PURCHASED BY DROVETTI (NOT FOUND BY HIM)

" Although a list of Egyptian kings was recorded by Manetho, a historian writing in Greek in the 3rd century BCE, the most comprehensive and reliable such document, which dates from the reign of Ramesses II (12th century BCE) was purchased by Bernadino Drovetti, an Italian adventurer of the early 19th century. The papyrus scroll was then almost perfectly preserved, but after Drovetti threw it into a box and took it back to Europe, where he sold it the king of Sardinia, it was nothing but a pile of jumbled fragments.

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1b) Found in 1820 at Luxor.

Found WHERE !!!

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1c) It was acquired in 1824 by the Egyptian Museum in Italy.

In the chain of events described Bernadino Drovetti purchased, not found it, then he sold it to the King of Sardinia.

It is not stated here who the Italy museum acquired it from or who Drovetti bought it from in the first place.

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1d) When unpacking the box in which it had been transported to Italy, it had disintegrated into small fragments.

So this guy paid cash for the papyrus and just threw it in a box?

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1e) Jean-Francois Champollion, examining it, could recognize only some of the larger fragments containing royal names, and produced a drawing of what he could decipher.

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How did Champollion determine any names were royal?

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1f) Gustav Seyffarth re-examined the fragments, some only 1 square centimeter in size, and made a more complete reconstruction of the papyrus based only on the papyrus fibers, as he could not yet determine the meaning of the hieratic characters.

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1g) Jens Peter Lauth, which largely confirmed the Seyffarth reconstruction. However, approximately 50% of the reconstructed area remains missing.

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1h) This papyrus as presently constituted is 1.7 m long and 0.41 m high, broken into over 160 fragments.

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1i) The beginning and ending of the list, however, are now lost;

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1j) There is no introduction, and the list does not continue after the 17th Dynasty.

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1k) The fact that the back of an older papyrus was used may indicate that the list was not of great formal importance to the writer.

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1l) The papyrus lists the names of rulers, the lengths of reigns in years, and months and days for individual kings

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* Show us every name that can be identified

* Show the text on the papyrus that identifies them as kings.

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1m) The list includes the names of ephemeral rulers or those ruling over small territories that may be un mentioned in other sources.

* If these names are not identified as rulers in the papyrus or in any other source, what information indicates they were rulers in the first place?

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1n) the papyrus estimated at 1.7m long and 0.41m high. 1.7 meters = 66 inches, .41 m = 16 inches.

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1o) it contains a list of gods, demi-gods, spirits, mythical spirits

* Name the gods and spirits listed.

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1p) an unknown scribe used the verso to write down this list of kings.

verso = opposite side.

* An unknown scribe wrote this text over 300 years after the Hyksos were gone and

* An unknown seller sold the scroll to Drovetti who

* Sold it to the king of Sardinia and some how

* The Italy museum acquired it.

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The fact that the list was scribbled on the back of an older papyrus shows the papyrus was of no great importance to the writer.

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1q) What evidence this papyrus came from Egypt in the first place?

Countries guard their ancient artifacts as treasures. To get ancient artifacts out of these countries, there is a process of applying for permits.

* Is there any official Egyptian records that Bernardino Drovetti applied for and received a permit to take this artifact out of Egypt?

 

 

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